タイムズに恥英文投稿婆s-080227

アンチ皇室ヲチスレ part238

165 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 01:07:22
384 :可愛い奥様:2008/02/26(火) 23:33:43 ID:i6iJLnsA0 あのう、前回問題があったということで削除したタイムズに送った層化疑惑のコメントを 陛下ご病気の記事用に書き換えてみたんですけど、とりあえず皆様のご意見をお聞かせ下さい。 It is very sad to hear that our Emperor and Empress have health problems and still have to do lots of heavy tasks for 365 days for us. Everybody knows this is because the Crown Prince and Princess are not willing to take over the tasks. We can check it out at the Homepage of the Imperial Agency how their schedule is empty. The most important Japanese Imperial family’s task is to preserve Japanese religious ritual and the traditional culture as well as charity the people. The Crown Princess seems to hate any of them. Nowadays the rumor spreads out in internet world the reason why she cannot serve the Shinto’s Divine services is because she is deeply affected by the Cult Doctrine. This is not a baseless rumor:1)her father Hisashi Owada, the senior official for the Foreign Ministry at that time, was accused at the National Diet that he had attended Daisaku Ikeda, the president of Soka Gakkai, the biggest cult in Japan, with the special treatment when Ikeda had traveled abroad. 2) the cult members solicits people with saying that the Crown Prince has already converted to the cult so that all Japanese should do so. Of course, this is just a rumor and religious freedom is fundamental human rights. However, the Imperial Family is the symbol of our peoples'unite, the constitution says. We cannot accept such a doubtful person in our Imperial family. The problem is not whether Princess Masako is a big eater or not. This is the National Crisis.
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420 名前:可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 00:35:35 ID:Yete2E1C0 >>384 創価がらみがインパクトがあるそうですが、実際に >> Daisaku Ikeda, >>the president of Soka Gakkai, the biggest cult in Japan, の名前をバーンと出してしまうと、Timesのほうでも文句言われると困るでしょうね。 ワシントンにハバを利かせ始めた、日本でも最大規模の仏教カルトという、婉曲な表現のほうがいいのではないでしょうか。 Timesも、なんでもありのタブロイド版とは違って、Just a rumorな話をネット上とはいえ載せるのは いい顔しないと思うんですが。 逆に誰かから「それはなに?」とでも聞かれたら、「I've heard it's ISG.」とでも答えたら。 あと、天皇の最も大切な仕事に宗教的側面があるのはゆるぎないことですが、 あまり宗教をふりかざすと、他の宗教の方からはあまり同調を得にくいと思います。 ボランティアや、式典への列席、香淳皇后けんそうの儀などの度重なるブッチで、 他国の方にもわかりやすく攻めたほうがいいかと。 すみません、当方、読めるけど書けない人間で…。 422 名前:可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 00:37:10 ID:Yete2E1C0 >>420 すみません、SGIでしたね…ort 475 名前:可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 02:42:07 ID:k/3rKVCj0 >>384 ワシントン奥約束守ってくれて乙! Daisakuの接待の件は本当に国会で本当に追及されたんだから実名入りで書いた方が良いのでは? 日付のソースある奥様、よろしく!
----------------------- 用語まで細かく添削していているから、実際に掲載されたら面白いね 188 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 07:55:06 タイムズ婆、草加と総帥のでっちあげを投稿する気か 211 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 08:26:06 >>188 それを待っているw 214 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 08:27:43 >>211また外国人に笑われるだけだから日本人としてはやめてもらいたいんだが 218 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 08:29:31
509 名前:可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 07:51:33 ID:rIWHCQ3L0 おはよう。 ここの奥様達って凄いわ〜 英語が出来る奥様がいっぱい居て頼りになります。 ガンガッテ、タイムズにコメしてくだされ〜
------------------- >>214 止めても無駄だから、楽しむしかない 222 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 08:31:20
505 名前:Times 3[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 07:43:36 ID:Th03Sdbt0 >>503 UK奥ありがとう。SectはCultに、戻します。 そしてDaisaku Ikeda, the president of the biggest Cult in Japanとして 学会の名前は書かないことにします。 あとthe wifeはタイプミスでhis wifeです。 507 名前:Times 3[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 07:45:06 ID:Th03Sdbt0 >>504 そうですね、doesn't likeをhatsに直してそのままになってました。乙です。 518 名前:Times[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 08:29:24 ID:Th03Sdbt0 皆様ありがとう! 夕ご飯公務の後また戻ってきますね!
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408 名前:可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 00:09:26 ID:mCGeLB3v0 >>384 乙です! 層化がらみがワシントンではインパクトがあるとのことでしたよね。 小和田父が層化に便宜を図ったのは本当だし、 層化の人が雅子さんを擁護してるのも限りなく本当に近いんじゃないかな〜と思っているのですが、 雅子さんが祭祀をやらないのは層化の教えにどっぷり漬かってるからというよりは 単にやりたくない(メンドクサイ、潔斎もいや、お清めもいや、早起きもいや) というだらしない理由のせいじゃないかな、と個人的には思ってます。 あの人が信仰のために何かを貫くような人にはとても思えない・・・。 それくらい信仰心があるなら皇室内で祭祀以外はもう少しうまく立ち回ってると思う。 雅子さんがカルトを信仰してるというより、カルト集団に利用されてる妃くらいのスタンスだと ぬるくなってしまうのでしょうか? まさこさんだけじゃなくナルちゃんも働いてない(宮内庁HP)とか、 ダブスタな態度のこととかばらしてる点はGJ! 病気といわれてる妃だけじゃなく、皇太子も働いてないってことが強調されてるともっと面白いかも。 海外の人になじみの深い公務をドタキャンした具体的な話とかもあるとわかりやすい? (スキー疲れでSOドタキャンとか?) あ、でも字数制限があるんですよね。 あれもこれもは無理ですね。言うだけ言ってごめんなさい。
279 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 08:56:57 384 名前:可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/26(火) 23:33:43 ID:i6iJLnsA0 あのう、前回問題があったということで削除したタイムズに送った層化疑惑のコメントを 陛下ご病気の記事用に書き換えてみたんですけど、とりあえず皆様のご意見をお聞かせ下さい。 It is very sad to hear that our Emperor and Empress have health problems and still have to do lots of heavy tasks for 365 days for us. Everybody knows this is because the Crown Prince and Princess are not willing to take over the tasks. We can check it out at the Homepage of the Imperial Agency how their schedule is empty. The most important Japanese Imperial family’s task is to preserve Japanese religious ritual and the traditional culture as well as charity the people. The Crown Princess seems to hate any of them.
Nowadays the rumor spreads out in internet world the reason why she cannot serve the Shinto’s Divine services is because she is deeply affected by the Cult Doctrine. This is not a baseless rumor:1)her father Hisashi Owada, the senior official for the Foreign Ministry at that time, was accused at the National Diet that he had attended Daisaku Ikeda, the president of Soka Gakkai, the biggest cult in Japan, with the special treatment when Ikeda had traveled abroad. 2) the cult members solicits people with saying that the Crown Prince has already converted to the cult so that all Japanese should do so. Of course, this is just a rumor and religious freedom is fundamental human rights. However, the Imperial Family is the symbol of our peoples'unite, the constitution says. We cannot accept such a doubtful person in our Imperial family. The problem is not whether Princess Masako is a big eater or not. This is the National Crisis. 385 名前:可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/26(火) 23:35:07 ID:ShwCvC930 横綱の品格が問われてて恫喝・サボりのお相撲さん、顔立ちがI子さんによく似てるよね。
344 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 09:39:52
554 名前:可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 09:34:00 ID:zOgurQeLO mixiコミュニティ:カルト・創価学会 トピック:創価の嘘がまた一つばれる。 ここに例の平成七年11月27日の国会会議録を投下したらどうなるかな。 「小和田とそうかは無関係なのが証明された!」って意見のトピなのだけど。
---------------- 何がやりたいのか、意味不明
392 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 11:58:34 ワシントン婆帰ってきた 393 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 12:21:43
641 名前:Times[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 11:50:55 ID:Th03Sdbt0 かなり変わってしまいましたがどうでしょう? The Crown Prince and Princess are not willing to take over the royal duties from their old parents. We can check it out at the homepage of the Imperial Agency how empty their schedule is. Nowadays the rumor spreads out that the reason why they are not responsible as the Crown couple is because they are deeply affected by the people from the cult that is hostile to the Imperial family. This is not a baseless rumor: the Princess’s father Hisashi Owada , the senior official for the Foreign Ministry at that time, was accused at the National Diet on 11/27/1995 that he had attended to the president of the biggest cult in Japan with the special treatments without any legal bases when he had traveled abroad. It is natural for the Owadas to have received some returns from the cult. And it is also natural for the cults not to release their hands with someone who once connected to them. Suppose Mrs. Camilla relates to the cults and Prince Charles rebels against the Queen because of his wife's influence. Who can tolerate such situations? I believe this is the National Crisis.
--------------------------------- 応援していますw 394 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 12:22:43 早く投稿しなってw 395 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 12:23:42 It is natural for the Owadas to have received some returns from the cult. ほおお 397 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 12:41:48 まだ投稿しないなあ 早くすれば良いのに 398 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 12:46:46 マジで草加信者はどう思うのかな 399 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 12:48:19 >>398 さあ でもこういう噂は水面下で囁かれているうちは、手の打ちようがないけど 表に出てくれば反論できるから、婆様様じゃないの? 400 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 12:50:02 >>399 婆、草加にメッタ切りにされないかなー 401 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 12:51:50 TIMESの目に留まる→TIMES興味を持って事実を調べる 事実証拠ナシ「なーんだやっぱり妄想か以後放置」で 結局OWD層化の潔白を証明する手伝いになる気がする 403 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 12:54:49 >>401 その辺が分かっている婆はおらんねw 404 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 13:05:12 >National Diet on 11/27/1995 これをソースに?無謀だなあ。 小和田氏の意向で出たものじゃなくいつもの定例要請、 その都度の次官名が書類に載るシステムと 噂大好き2ちゃんでさえスルーされてるのに。 婆は頑なに訂正しないけど、婆スレ以外じゃ恥をかくだけだよ。 418 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 14:50:30 ttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3430341.ece 始まった 419 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 14:51:41
A man suffering depression, who can't do his job, can't traveling, can't skiing every day, and can't go shopping and dining daily, as I know from my experience. Rather it is a typical symptom of adjustment disorder that she can do what she wants to do and she can't do what she does not want to do on the same day, like a school boy can't go to school. If not so, it is a typical personality of willfulness or she is unsuited for the job. momo, Tokyo, Japan
420 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 14:53:53
I have no respect for prince Naruhito. He was asked to visit his parents many times but he did nothing. At his birthday press conference, he said "THEY should think about the Emperor's schedule for his health." Why can't he say "I" or at least "WE"? He basically doesn't want to help his old weakened parents at all. People are so disappointed with his statements. Still there is no explanations of Masako's mysterious illness. He says he will support her firmly. The thing is, Emperor doesn't merely mean that he wants to see his granddaughter more often, but he wants to see his son to hand down numerous traditional things for the next generation. However obviously Naruhito doesn't want to see his parents for some reason, and refused to explain the reason because of privacy. Look at his schedule, he is taking days off 5 days in a week. I don't want Naruhito to be the next emperor anymore, he should look after only his wife and daughter as a commoner. The chiding was the last chance for him. ayano, Tokyo, Japan
421 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 14:56:20
Is it just me or does the Crown Prince come across as not very bright? The impression I get is that he is blissfully unaware of the discontent among the public regarding his wife. I hope he noticed the fact that the IHA did not block the negative publicity of his wife by the media This was unheard of years ago. Back then, media did not bad-mouth the imperial family. If Masako can't handle being a crown princess, she should just "shape up or ship out", and not waste any more of public's money. And if the crown prince insists on "enabling" his wife so that she could do as she pleases and shirk her official duties, he should do what King Edward VIII of GB did ; give up his title, live as a private citizen, & let his brother become the next emperor. In my opinion, the crown prince is conveniently forgetting the meaning of " noblesse oblige". Magix, Vancouver, Canada
423 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 14:58:07 今度はへんてこ地名を名乗らなかった 学習したね 442 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 16:30:38
42 名前:可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 16:00:16 ID:j6LKcSBF0 timesの新しいきじが見られなくなってしまいました http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3430341.ece URL変更になったのかしら。どなたかご存知ありませんか? あと前の記事のコメントで"I personaly believe"て書いてあって 吹いちゃいました。例のミスティーンアメリカのコント?ですね(~_~;) 47 名前:可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日:2008/02/27(水) 16:19:21 ID:c3thm2FJ0 >>42 見れますよ。リロードしては? 今日はコメントが消えたり、現れたりしているそうです。 今は3件のコメント見えます。 へたくそながら作文してみたので私もコメント入れてみます。
----------------------- OWDのせいだ!と婆が騒ぐ前に、たしなめられてしまった 残念 444 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 16:32:02 ワシントンマダムは、どの掲示板にいるんだろ 445 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 16:33:39 創価色で遊んでるから間違いない!って 馬鹿レスついて笑ったぞ 446 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 16:34:53 >>444 タイムズに投稿する予定らしい 547 :名無し草:2008/02/27(水) 23:18:10
The problem is that Masako (and her supporters)claims that she has become ill because she could not adapt to the imperial household accusing its 'outdated ways', and therefore justifies her refusal to her job ,but at the same time she never hesitates to make full use of her position and power as the crown princess. She skips ii??portant ceremonies, refuses to meet Japanese visitors sayinig she is ill and on the very same day goes out to parties and concerts. shutting out the public and the traffic, She has a strong influence on the prince, who seems to allow anything. However, I personally believe that Masako, if she cannot adapt to her royal duties , should be freed from this contradictory state, for her own happiness and also for the sake of frustratedJapanese people. She and her husband can resign from the throne and then live a lavish and completely free life, free from traditions or whatever they don't like. Maple, Tokyo, Japan ttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3307711.ece
683 :名無し草:2008/02/28(木) 11:01:51
I mean no disrespect but I think we should all live one day in their lives before we form an opinion. As for the Crown Princess, she can't have an easy job. Didn't the present Empress have a breakdown? Like I said, I mean no disrespect, but they are such a private family how can anyone really know what is going on behind those palace wall. Sherry, Jacksonville, Fl/USA
684 :名無し草:2008/02/28(木) 11:03:54
In a sense, Crown Prince Naruhito at 48-year-old birthday press conference didn't disappoint me. He had the nerve to say that he would expect some people around Their Imperial Majesties to rethink about their hard schedules when asked about the Emperor's health. Contrary to his brother Prince Akishino's last year's comment. Prince Akishino himself checked and pointed out the exact number of the Emperor's duties performed and he(he actually said "We") would like to support his parents. He looked so proud when he told the press that he had jogged 100 kilometers last month. Is he bragging about having lots of free time while his parents and other royal members are busy dealing with their daily duites? I personaly pay homage to the Imperial Families for what they have performed for us on many occasions. But I sense neither dignity nor class or the tradition of Japan from those two people, the Crown Prince and Princess. From what I saw on TV, they came on merely as a codependent couple. Sumiko, Sapporo, Japan
685 :名無し草:2008/02/28(木) 11:06:27
Problem is Prince Naruhito never shown any sign of sympathy for old parents. If someone interested in how much Emperor and Empress are work, as well as Naruhito's brother Fumihito and his wife Princess Kiko, have a close look their schedule on IHA's web site. Unfortunately, these schedules are written only in Japanese but you will get rough idea. In spite of Prince Naruhito's schedule are inflated with some luncheons and observing museums, concerts, still his diary is quite empty. Naruhito announced, people around Emperor should consider Emperor's health and schedule. It sounds like this matter is nothing to do with him at all. Last year he used the phrase again and again, "I devote myself as Crown Prince..." but to do what? Other family members have been covering up duties for Naruhito and Masako on top of the their own. Naruhito seems to be very proud of himself when he claimed he run 100km per month for his own health, obviously he has time and energy to run. Yoshiko, Oxford, UK
686 :名無し草:2008/02/28(木) 11:09:15 札幌すみこと英国よしこ婆が常連になっている>タイムズ 687 :名無し草:2008/02/28(木) 11:22:49 内容以前に英語が酷すぎて読むのに疲れる… 海外の方たちもさぞや頭を抱えていることだろう 689 :名無し草:2008/02/28(木) 11:32:07 >>683 この人(多分本当の米国人)はごくまとも 皇居の中の苦労なんて、外からはわからない、皇后だって倒れたじゃんと。 no disrespectと繰り返して、日本的なものにも配慮してる 婆のコメントは長すぎ こういうのはno longer than one paragraphが常識なのに 864 :名無し草:2008/02/28(木) 20:49:39
I wonder the Emperor and Empress feel guilty to cut back their official duties or they think they must make up for their son, Crown princess and his wife Masako's frequent downplay of their duties. Both of them are over 70 and all Japanese are amenable or even suggest them to take a break as we know their long-term devotion to us and Japan. Why Crown Prince does not understand their true intention? They have limited time left but they have lot of things to hand down and instruct to the next Emperor face to face. It is OK to support your wife as a husband but support your wife at your free time after you accomplish your duties as Crown Princess. No man or father of age 48 cannnot attend his daughter's parents' meeting often on week days, take his daughter to kintergarden several times a week, enjoy jogging 100km per month in Japan. I am quite disappointed to see Crown Prince always read his wife's face and ignores the Emperor and Empress when they are in bad condition. Mao, Tokyo, Japan
865 :名無し草:2008/02/28(木) 20:52:01
Living in this small island of Japan, you are bound to have friends and relatives who work here and there, which means you have direct or indirect experiences wiith the Imperial family and/or Masako, who was formerly a Foreign Ministry employee. Hearsay or not, based on varied information, you eventually come up with your own picture of what's going on. Your natural conclusions are: Prince Naruhito got along fine with his folks before marriage, but has been tormented by the strained relationships between the wife and the family of origin, mostly owing to Masako's lack of respect for Naruhito's parents. She has ignored and behaved disrespctully towards Emperor and Empress, while pandering to her own parents and sisters. Don't fall into the cliche here, though: it is not because she was educated at Harvard and Oxford or not because the Imperial Household is 'too traditional and backward for a Western-educated woman'. This is only a problem of wrong marriage within a wrong family. Mai, Hyogo, Japan



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